X-cs: R From: IsraelP X-RS-ID: X-RS-Flags: 0,0,1,0,0,0,0 X-RS-Sigset: -1 To: @PIKHOLZ.PML Subject: Genealogy #39 Reply-to: Israel@pikholz.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:41:09 +0200 Mazal tov to Avi and Esther Drot on the birth six weeks ago of their son Devir Shelomo. Devir is the first grandchild of my late sister, Avi's mother. Condolences to the family of Pearl Spector, daughter of the late Hyman and Sadie (Pickholz) Spector of the YITZHAK family. We received and analyzed the thirty-six records that we ordered at the beginning of the winter. We have now been able to eliminate the Thalenbergs as an independent family, as we have identified the head of that family (David Samuel) as a son of Aron, son of "Original Pinkas."+ At the end of my last summary, I told you the story of a possible discovery of a Frankel family of Pikholz descendants with living reporesentatives in New York. Further inquiry has shown that this is in fact one of our families and as soon as our newfound cousin gives us a summary of her family, we will enter them in the family called ELIEZER. While going over some old records a couple of weeks ago, I found a Skalat birth record from 1866 that I had not seen before. Nachman Pohorille, born to Markus Pohorille and Alte bat Nachman Pikholz. This is the same Nachman Pikholz who is the father of Basie Perlmutter and probably also the father of Jacob Laor's great-great-grandfather Aryeh-Leib Pikholz. One thing led to another and in a very short time I found that this couple Alte and Markus Pohorille (sometimes spelled Parylle or Pohorilles) had three other children - Josef, Sara and Ciryl. Josef lived in Vienna and died there in 1957. It is not clear if he had children. Ciryl married Anczel-Joska Ratzenstein and we are trying to determine if any of the known Skalat Ratzensteins are their descendants. Sara married Moses Rosenblatt and we are checking with Skalat Rosenblatts to see if they connect to this couple. Nachman Pohorille had at least three chldren. I had a look at the Red Cross cards at Yad Vashem (which is where I found the brother Joseph) and I found a much younger Pohoryles from near Skalat, who went to the US and took the name Norman Ryles. He died some years ago in Elizabeth NJ and I found someone who went to school with his daughter and will check out a family connection there. On another subject, a few years ago, I saw a phone listing for a woman in Netanya named Naila Pikgolts. (That's a Russian spelling, for there is no letter h in Cyrillic.) I tried to contact her and even went to the address, but had no luck. A couple of weeks, I called the Netanya burial society and asked if they had anyone buried with the Russian spelling and got a grave address and date (1995) for Taube Pikgolts. They also gave me 1995 addresses for Taube's daughters Naila and Leonora, with their married names. I found Leonora last Friday and identified Taube as the"most Piholz." Why "most" - all four of Taube's grandparents were Pikholz. I knew this family, but didn't know that one sister had survived the Holocaust. After recovering from the shock, Leonora phoned me this evening and told me that her mother left Skalat at eighteen when the Germans came in 1941 and never returned. She lived in Uzbekistan and never had any contacts with Pikholz descendants again, even after coming here in 1991. Taube apparently told Leonora enough about her family that we may be able to figure out how to connect the ORENSTEIN and perhaps the DORA family to some of the "main branches." I hope we will get together during the holiday. Speaking of which, we will be away for the entire holiday week and I will be offline during that time. More as it happens. Wishing all of you a happy, kosher and meaningful Passover holiday. Israel P. -- End --